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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep per the Snowball Clause. The article's creator jumped the gun before the album title, release date, and track list were confirmed, but that info became available in the following days. Note that the AfD template at the top of the album article should not have been removed until after this here discussion was closed. (non-admin closure) DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:51, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm nominating this article to be deleted because the title of the upcoming AC/DC album hasn't actually been confirmed by the band themselves. Plus the album doesn't have a release date yet. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 15:58, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. MetalDiablo666 (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – There's no debate the album exists nor that it will be released. It should be renamed according to convention (AC/DC's upcoming album or whatever the guideline dictates) because no title is confirmed. There's enough source material out there to sustain an article. Bretonbanquet (talk) 17:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I totally agree! Louis.Cruisader (talk) 22:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
So what? This is the pleasure of pure speculation! Louis.Cruisader (talk) 22:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename - I also feel like the album page is notable as a single preview has already been released. Coupled with the reunion announcement, it should be renamed until the title is confirmed, and any speculative sourcing deleted. I cleared the "possible" tracklist that was unacceptably cited to a forum post. TJD2 (talk) 22:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unacceptably cited? Poor little guy! Louis.Cruisader (talk) 22:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Louis.Cruisader, Please comment on content, not character per Wikipedia rules. Nothing you have added to this discussion has been productive, and I feel like removing everything you have written because of this. Yes, a forum post is not encyclopedic and is not ever considered a reliable source. Please conduct yourself in a more respectful manner next time, and if you have anything constructive to add, or even a vote, feel free to do so. TJD2 (talk) 03:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
True! Louis.Cruisader (talk) 04:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the article should stay, but do you think it should be renamed, as PWR/UP hasn't been confirmed as the album's title? TJD2 (talk) 04:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Rename - whilst it is still speculative, I concur that if this article is deleted then it will just get recreated by others until the album details are officially confirmed. No different to a number of upcoming super hero films. Dan arndt (talk) 11:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - See various sections of WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NALBUM. Everyone who voted to KEEP above is enthusiastic about a new AC/DC album, but should take the opportunity to learn about Wikipedia policies. Wikipedia is not a speculative service, and is not a promotional source for future things that don't yet exist. All we know as of yesterday is that AC/DC has planned a new album for 2021, and there is no confirmed release date or title. "PWR/UP" is a Twitter handle they are using for publicity purposes right now, and it may or may not be the title of the album. The fact that they have announced a new album -- and that is all that is really confirmed so far -- can be mentioned at the band's article. Wikipedia will still be here after the album has a confirmed title, tracklist, and release date. DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As seen below, as of today (Oct. 6) we do have a confirmed release date of Nov. 13 for the album, and it has already gotten plenty of press due to interest in AC/DC's comeback after tough times. Might as well keep the article now, but the title is still causing some confusion in various music media sources. Give them another day to straighten it out. DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
True, but various sources are reporting the title as PWR/UP, POWERUP, and Power Up. There is still some confusion on what the album is called, affecting the title of the WP article we are presently discussing. DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:35, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely a bit of confusion about the spelling of the title. Rolling Stone have it in straight English, but other sources are using the "PWR/UP" format. It should clear up in a day or two. A word from the record company would help, or a glimpse of the cover. I would've preferred to wait until an exact title emerged before naming the article (as I said at the top) and used a placeholder title, but you know how these things snowball. Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:57, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or redirect (If needed): When I made this article, I made it with the sources I had available to me at the time, which were mostly Ultimate Classic Rock and Loudwire sources and a few others whose names escape me right now. The article has since been improved upon many of times since I created this page with a lot of credible sources including Rolling Stone and so I applaud each and every one that has contributed this page. Anywho, if we were to redirect this, someone is going to undo the redirect and just restore the content. Deletion is not a good thing for this article, as all the content would be gone, and would have to start from scratch again. If we must do something, I'd recommend a redirect, that way when whatever the variation of the title is (Power up, Power/up, and POWERUP, etc), we can undo the redirect, restore the content, and then move the page to the correct title, otherwise, I just recommend keeping the page as is, especially with all the sourced content. As had been stated above, we should know the title here very soon, at which point we can just simply move the page to if it is not PWR/UP. Moline1 (talk) 01:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It is a notable release by a notable band. I don't even know why this is being considered for deletion. Sure, information may be limited, but deleting it doesn't make sense. If we delete it now, it's going to be created again later. If the name isn't fully confirmed, maybe we could just rename the article. Bowling is life (talk) 01:58, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment' - I went ahead and renamed the article because the album title has been confirmed as "Power Up". Can we close this AfD now that the album has officially been confirmed? TJD2 (talk) 04:13, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, end AfD: Name confirmed as Power Up, track list released and a date is set. Deleting this page would be vandalism, it fits all criteria and confirms what was previously speculation. DCook58 (talk) 04:20, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Changed my vote, per reasons above. Turns out that the album's name and release date are already confirmed. ASTIG😎 (ICE TICE CUBE) 10:00, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.